Race Driver 3 .col track Files important!

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Race Driver 3 .col track Files important!

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Hello, i would like to edit col.col collision mesh files located in RD3 track files (track.big)

https://web.archive.org/web/20070708222 ... hp?p=18479
the second page isnt archivized so i don't know if it was ever figured out...

please Oleg, do your best, make an editor or something for that.. after that i might be able to create new track.... maybe

https://www.mediafire.com/file/c7hvn7il ... l.col/file

heres the file, (Indianapolis Oval Track)

also if you have any other tools for this game, please let me know.

Thanks!!
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Unfortunately, I don't see this happen anytime soon.
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Ahhhhhh, no chance?
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What i found GTA have .col files too but the Editors don't work with RD3.. Looks its different
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absolutely. File extension ".col" does not mean anything. The file contents and data layout is important. of cause RD3 uses its own data and layout, so any tool will not handle these files unless tool is designed for RD3.
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AAArgh
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What about p3d filter? I have for rd3 but i cant open rd2 car models, any solution?
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http://web.archive.org/web/200702201638 ... ory&id=110

many interesting things... gone from that game :(
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the game is so outdated, I doubt there are enthusiasts to take care of creating tools for it nowadays.
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hmm one more question about this....
http://web.archive.org/web/200707071858 ... m.php?f=13
forum zmodeler2 doesnt work... from this link i can look into only one topic
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This is an old forum, it was lost when I migrated to phpbb version 3. since then there were several upgrades too and quite a lot of forum posts were lost.

And I don't have backups of data for year 2006, believe me.

However, I remember the "R.E.G. Perfecionist" forum member quite well, may be he could be reachable by some means?
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I wanted to edit p3d model and when exporting it it says Missing textures bla bla in ..ds (.fxo files from effects folder) when i ignore it the car in game looks weird tyres interior...

https://prnt.sc/JcmzfAL2H7oj

i dont know if theres any instruction... wanna convert some cars from RD:Grid into RD3 but it crashes the game... i tried to replace every part name with that model from rd grid putting part.map into the .big and crashes anyway....
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I can't help on this subject, it is very outdated and I don't remember any bit of this game or export-specific requirements.
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Ahh, sorry to bother you again

Well i tried to contact REG Perfectionist on FB (Cecil B) but he doesnt reply

Last time i found p3d2z3d tool

and it can convert most of the P3D track files from RD2 to z3d, but not _trk.p3d (track environment), and some less important, then i just open zmodeler and save as p3d then rename to .px (rd3 tracks format)
renaming directly p3d track from rd2 to .px(rd3) will make a crash

We can't do anything about collisions .col but i observe i can use them from rd2 example nurburgring LONG layout (in RD3 exist Nurburgring Short Layout) when i use it i can normally ride, BUT if i use .col from track that totally don't exist in RD3, the car spawns in air.. and i TOTALLY don't understand it

p3d2z3d
http://web.archive.org/web/200305060854 ... 3d2z3d.rar

RD3 P3D FULL FORMAT
http://web.archive.org/web/200605061132 ... php?t=3800

Is there any way you could figure out why i cant convert the _trk .p3d? that would give me at least possiblity to convert Eurospeedway Lausitz Track(a bit different layout) and Nurburgring Track as the .col from rd2 are working correctly on these two

Here is example of file that i can convert and can not:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/38pcrb2k ... g.zip/file

Thanks for your time
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both files in your archive are not matching the file format specs given there. Looks like they are from RD2 and file format is for RD3.

The file extension .p3d in RD2 and RD3 does not mean the layout of data there is compatible, it could be completely different data layout so tools for .p3d files could be unable to handle files properly.
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Hi Oleg, i return here to ask you about the Part Names, Shaders
I think in this case it won't be a problem for you.
https://web.archive.org/web/20071220015 ... 7&start=25
0 main_body
1 spoiler
2 bonnet
3 fl_wing
4 fr_wing
5 f_bumper
10 rollcage
11 steering_wheel
12 l_door
13 r_door
14 b_bumper
16 fr_light
17 fl_light
18 fr_light_pod
19 fl_light_pod
20 bl_light
29 f_visor
37 br_door
38 bl_door
39 br_wing
40 bl_wing
42 fl_caliper
43 fl_disc
44 fl_alloy
46 fl_tyre
48 fr_caliper
49 fr_disc
50 fr_alloy
52 fr_tyre
54 bl_caliper
55 bl_disc
56 bl_alloy
58 bl_tyre
60 br_caliper
61 br_disc
62 br_alloy
64 br_tyre
66 roof
71 seat
72 driver
73 dr_head
74 dr_rt_arm
75 dr_lf_arm
94 bl_exhaust
103 fl_struts
104 fr_struts
105 bl_struts
106 br_struts
117 engine
118 high_bonnet
126 b_uf
130 eng_fan_01
131 eng_fan_02
178 fr_shock
179 fl_shock
180 br_shock
181 bl_shock

Here you said the game uses 320 Parts
https://prnt.sc/owiTuoE1N9eE
Can you tell me all the parts if possible from these filters i attached?
Also what is the difference between those two versions of filters?

Also, if all of these shaders are supported
https://prnt.sc/U7aaWWEfljJg
Here are two filter versions
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ita5wmtu ... s.zip/file

Thank for your patience! Without this knowledge we are failing with converting cars from RD2 to RD3 as i found the p3d(rd2,rd1) to z3d tool
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I'm not able to make any changes in ZModeler2 modules. you have what you have already, no changes could be made. if certain game shaders are not supported on import/export - they will not be.
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bruh, that's weird
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@Oleg - Hey Stranger :) Yes I'm still alive and great to see you are.

Marek eventually caught up with me on FB but like you I can barely remember those days, I know they were much fun and we all had a great time ripping things apart and making mods for communities.

These days things are much different for sure, i know that just watching my kids play these endless moddable games, whereas we used to have to work really hard and grind some brain cells to create, hack n slash our way through file formats haha.

@Oleg, its really great to see your pushing hard with Zmodeller, truly awesome just to write this post to say Hello to you were such support back in the days of R.E.G - these days its all about work & family/paying the bills :). I do hope you and your family are well too.

@Marek, apologies but as per our discussion on FB, I'm unable to offer any more assistance than the archived forum threads you found from the old R.E.G forums, if I find anything in my files I'll be sure to be in touch, Codemasters are/were/still never the best at supporting communities, i doubt much has changed these days either.

Take care - Just posting this message makes me feel old lol :)

Kind Regards
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